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Re: Der Diktator und die Demokratie

Ein Demokrat würde darauf hinarbeiten, die Gemeinsamkeiten und kulturellen Bindungen stärken, damit die Ösis freiwillig den Schulterschluss mit Deutschland suchen.
Dem Diktator Putin sind solche Anwandlungen egal.

Sehen wir mal, was so manche westliche Berater der US-Präsidenten, CIA-Direktor, Botschafter in der ehem. USSR oder russischen Föderation so zu sagen haben:

https://prnigeria.com/2022/03/05/how-western-strategic-thinkers/
(Kurze Zusammenfassung)

Hier noch vereinzelt mit Links zu ganzen Artikeln:

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Maersheimer (University of Chicago):

https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/why-john-mearsheimer-blames-the-us-for-the-crisis-in-ukraine

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Jeffrey Sachs (Columbia University):

https://www.jeffsachs.org/newspaper-articles/gafr872ellaha3wpjhpfylc6lcx68j

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CIA Direktor Bill Burns:

https://theconversation.com/ukraine-war-follows-decades-of-warnings-that-nato-expansion-into-eastern-europe-could-provoke-russia-177999

Biden’s CIA director, William J. Burns, has been warning about the provocative effect of NATO expansion on Russia since 1995. That’s when Burns, then a political officer in the U.S. Embassy in Moscow, reported to Washington that “hostility to early NATO expansion is almost universally felt across the domestic political spectrum here.”

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Malcolm Fraser (ehem. australischer Ministerpräsident):

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/mar/03/ukraine-theres-no-way-out-unless-the-west-understands-its-past-mistakes

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Robert Gates (ehem. Verteidigungsminister der Vereinigten Staaten):

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/28/nato-expansion-war-russia-ukraine

In his memoir, Duty, Robert M Gates, who served as secretary of defense in the administrations of both George W Bush and Barack Obama, stated his belief that “the relationship with Russia had been badly mismanaged after [George HW] Bush left office in 1993”. Among other missteps, “US agreements with the Romanian and Bulgarian governments to rotate troops through bases in those countries was a needless provocation.” In an implicit rebuke to the younger Bush, Gates asserted that “trying to bring Georgia and Ukraine into Nato was truly overreaching”. That move, he contended, was a case of “recklessly ignoring what the Russians considered their own vital national interests”.

The following year, the Kremlin demonstrated that its discontent with Nato’s continuing incursions into Russia’s security zone had moved beyond verbal objections. Moscow exploited a foolish provocation by Georgia’s pro‐ western government to launch a military offensive that brought Russian troops to the outskirts of the capital. Thereafter, Russia permanently detached two secessionist‐ minded Georgian regions and put them under effective Russian control.

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Paul Keating (ehem. australischer Ministerpräsident):

https://johnmenadue.com/nato-creeping-towards-russias-western-borders-is-dangerous/

The decision to expand NATO by inviting Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic to participate and to hold out the prospect to others—in other words, to move Europe’s military demarcation point to the very borders of the former Soviet Union—is, I believe, an error which may rank in the end with the strategic miscalculations which prevented Germany from taking its full place in the international system at the beginning of this century.

The great question for Europe is no longer how to embed Germany in Europe—that has been achieved—but how to involve Russia in a way which secures the continent during the next century.

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Sir Roderic Lyne (von 2000 bis 2004 britischer Botschafter in der Russischen Föderation):

https://uc.web.ox.ac.uk/article/the-uc-interview-series-sir-roderic-lyne

When Putin started out in 2000, he immediately reached out to the West. It was not popular with the hard-line elements within the Russian military defence or the FSB, and Putin knew he took some risks. He closed the bases in Cuba and Vietnam, which was a very deliberate gesture to show to the West that he was getting rid of the Cold War. Restoring the relationship with NATO, which had got fractured over the bombing of Belgrade, was also a really important step and it was very unpopular with the many elements in Moscow who felt that NATO should have been made to apologise.

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Pat Buchanan (politischer Beratet von Ford, Nixon und Reagon):

https://www.standard.net/opinion/national-commentary/2022/mar/01/buchanan-did-we-provoke-putins-war-in-ukraine/

In that year, 1999, Putin watched as America conducted a 78-day bombing campaign on Serbia, the Balkan nation that had historically been a protectorate of Mother Russia.

That year, also, three former Warsaw Pact nations, the Czech Republic, Hungary and Poland, were brought into NATO.

Against whom were these countries to be protected by U.S. arms and the NATO alliance, the question was fairly asked.

The question seemed to be answered fully in 2004, when Slovenia, Slovakia, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Romania and Bulgaria were admitted into NATO, a grouping that included three former republics of the USSR itself, as well as three more former Warsaw Pact nations.

Then, in 2008, came the Bucharest declaration that put Georgia and Ukraine, both bordering on Russia, on a path to NATO membership.

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Jack Matlock (ehem Botschafter der USA in der USSR):

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2022/02/15/the-origins-of-the-ukraine-crisis-and-how-conflict-can-be-avoided/

And so far as Ukraine is concerned, U.S. intrusion into its domestic politics was deep, actively supporting the 2014 revolution and overthrow of the elected Ukrainian government in 2014.

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Und jetzt komme ich wieder zu Ihrem Satz:

Ein Demokrat würde darauf hinarbeiten, die Gemeinsamkeiten und kulturellen Bindungen stärken, damit die Ösis freiwillig den Schulterschluss mit Deutschland suchen.

Russland hat einen Schulterschluss gesucht. Russland hat beidseitige und gegenseitige Sicherheitsstrukturen gefordert. Man hat bewusst gelogen und die Nato, weiter nach Osten ausgedehnt - gegen die Zusagen. Man hat den ABM- und INF Vertrag aufgekündigt. Man hat einen Raketenabwehrschirm installiert - bei allem Russland öffentlich protestiert und gewarnt hat. Russland hat sogar mit Georgien und Ukraine eine rote Linie aufgezeigt, die man wiederrum ignoriert hat.

Und wie man aus den Links entnehmen kann, war am Anfang von Putin immer die Bereitschaft da, einen gemeinsamen Weg zu gehen (obwohl man schon einige Ost-Staaten in die Nato aufgenommen hat) - zumindest eine Sicherheitsarchitektur zu schaffen für Europa.

Das Posting wurde vom Benutzer editiert (23.03.2022 10:52).

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