Oriens schrieb am 9. Juli 2005 18:34
> Willi Waelzlager schrieb am 9. Juli 2005 18:05
>
> > Auch sehe ich zwischen 30 Toten in London und 100.000 Toten im Irak
> > ein leichtes Ungleichgewicht.
>
> Was haben die Toten von London mir dem Irak zu tun?
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=74&ItemID=8260
"This morning, the suffering, grief and terror that have visited so
many innocents in recent years came to London. We have not paid the
kind of price that people have paid in Fallujah, Najaf or Jenin, but
it is a steep price nonetheless. And its root causes are the same.
The bomb blasts were grimly predictable. Indeed, they had been widely
and repeatedly predicted – not least by rank-and-file Londoners, who
knew that by taking Britain into Iraq side-by-side with the USA, Tony
Blair had placed their city in the firing line (...)
[Tony Blair] spoke of the unity of ‘civilised nations’ in resisting
‘terrorism’. While the delivery may be slicker, his ‘us’ vs ‘them’
world-view was indistinguishable from Bush’s. Even by Blair’s
standards, it was a performance of nauseating hypocrisy, as he sought
to seize the moral high ground in relation to violence and
destruction that he himself helped unleash (...)
I remember speaking to a neighbour who told me proudly that he was
going on the march – his first ever protest march – because he was
damned if he was going to let Tony Blair endanger his children’s
lives by making London a prime target for attack."
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=40&ItemID=8262
""If you bomb our cities," Osama bin Laden said in a recent
videotape, "we will bomb yours."' It was clear Britain would be a
target ever since British Prime Minister Tony Blair decided to join
President Bush's "war on terror" and his invasion of Iraq. We had, as
they say, been warned. The G-8 summit was obviously chosen, well in
advance, as Attack Day.
It's no use Blair telling us, "They will never succeed in destroying
what we hold dear." They are not trying to destroy "what we hold
dear." They are trying to get public opinion to force Blair to
withdraw from Iraq, out of his alliance with the United States, out
of his adherence to Bush's policies in the Middle East. The Spanish
paid the price for their support for Bush -- and Spain's subsequent
retreat from Iraq proved that the Madrid bombings achieved their
objectives -- while the Australians were made to suffer in Bali.
It is easy for Blair to call yesterday's bombings "barbaric"' -- they
were -- but what were the civilian deaths of the Anglo American
invasion of Iraq in 2003, the children torn apart by cluster bombs,
the innocent Iraqis gunned down at American military checkpoints.
When they die, it is "collateral damage"; when "we" die it is
"barbaric terrorism." (...)
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=15&ItemID=8263
"The bombers who targeted London yesterday are anonymous. It is
assumed that those who carried out these attacks are linked to
al-Qaida. We simply do not know. Al-Qaida is not the only terrorist
group in existence. It has rivals within the Muslim diaspora. But it
is safe to assume that the cause of these bombs is the unstinting
support given by New Labour and its prime minister to the US wars in
Afghanistan and Iraq.
One of the arguments deployed by Ken Livingstone, the mayor of
London, when he appealed to Tony Blair not to support the war in Iraq
was prescient: "An assault on Iraq will inflame world opinion and
jeopardise security and peace everywhere. London, as one of the major
world cities, has a great deal to lose from war and a lot to gain
from peace, international cooperation and global stability."
Most Londoners (as the rest of the country) were opposed to the Iraq
war. Tragically, they have suffered the blow and paid the price for
the re-election of Blair and a continuation of the war (...)
The real solution lies in immediately ending the occupation of Iraq,
Afghanistan and Palestine. Just because these three wars are reported
sporadically and mean little to the everyday lives of most Europeans
does not mean the anger and bitterness they arouse in the Muslim
world and its diaspora is insignificant. As long as western
politicians wage their wars and their colleagues in the Muslim world
watch in silence, young people will be attracted to the groups who
carry out random acts of revenge."
> Willi Waelzlager schrieb am 9. Juli 2005 18:05
>
> > Auch sehe ich zwischen 30 Toten in London und 100.000 Toten im Irak
> > ein leichtes Ungleichgewicht.
>
> Was haben die Toten von London mir dem Irak zu tun?
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=74&ItemID=8260
"This morning, the suffering, grief and terror that have visited so
many innocents in recent years came to London. We have not paid the
kind of price that people have paid in Fallujah, Najaf or Jenin, but
it is a steep price nonetheless. And its root causes are the same.
The bomb blasts were grimly predictable. Indeed, they had been widely
and repeatedly predicted – not least by rank-and-file Londoners, who
knew that by taking Britain into Iraq side-by-side with the USA, Tony
Blair had placed their city in the firing line (...)
[Tony Blair] spoke of the unity of ‘civilised nations’ in resisting
‘terrorism’. While the delivery may be slicker, his ‘us’ vs ‘them’
world-view was indistinguishable from Bush’s. Even by Blair’s
standards, it was a performance of nauseating hypocrisy, as he sought
to seize the moral high ground in relation to violence and
destruction that he himself helped unleash (...)
I remember speaking to a neighbour who told me proudly that he was
going on the march – his first ever protest march – because he was
damned if he was going to let Tony Blair endanger his children’s
lives by making London a prime target for attack."
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=40&ItemID=8262
""If you bomb our cities," Osama bin Laden said in a recent
videotape, "we will bomb yours."' It was clear Britain would be a
target ever since British Prime Minister Tony Blair decided to join
President Bush's "war on terror" and his invasion of Iraq. We had, as
they say, been warned. The G-8 summit was obviously chosen, well in
advance, as Attack Day.
It's no use Blair telling us, "They will never succeed in destroying
what we hold dear." They are not trying to destroy "what we hold
dear." They are trying to get public opinion to force Blair to
withdraw from Iraq, out of his alliance with the United States, out
of his adherence to Bush's policies in the Middle East. The Spanish
paid the price for their support for Bush -- and Spain's subsequent
retreat from Iraq proved that the Madrid bombings achieved their
objectives -- while the Australians were made to suffer in Bali.
It is easy for Blair to call yesterday's bombings "barbaric"' -- they
were -- but what were the civilian deaths of the Anglo American
invasion of Iraq in 2003, the children torn apart by cluster bombs,
the innocent Iraqis gunned down at American military checkpoints.
When they die, it is "collateral damage"; when "we" die it is
"barbaric terrorism." (...)
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=15&ItemID=8263
"The bombers who targeted London yesterday are anonymous. It is
assumed that those who carried out these attacks are linked to
al-Qaida. We simply do not know. Al-Qaida is not the only terrorist
group in existence. It has rivals within the Muslim diaspora. But it
is safe to assume that the cause of these bombs is the unstinting
support given by New Labour and its prime minister to the US wars in
Afghanistan and Iraq.
One of the arguments deployed by Ken Livingstone, the mayor of
London, when he appealed to Tony Blair not to support the war in Iraq
was prescient: "An assault on Iraq will inflame world opinion and
jeopardise security and peace everywhere. London, as one of the major
world cities, has a great deal to lose from war and a lot to gain
from peace, international cooperation and global stability."
Most Londoners (as the rest of the country) were opposed to the Iraq
war. Tragically, they have suffered the blow and paid the price for
the re-election of Blair and a continuation of the war (...)
The real solution lies in immediately ending the occupation of Iraq,
Afghanistan and Palestine. Just because these three wars are reported
sporadically and mean little to the everyday lives of most Europeans
does not mean the anger and bitterness they arouse in the Muslim
world and its diaspora is insignificant. As long as western
politicians wage their wars and their colleagues in the Muslim world
watch in silence, young people will be attracted to the groups who
carry out random acts of revenge."