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Subject: How many may have tried cell phones aloft? Come clean,
now...
From: Tim Q
Date: Mon Sep 11 16:42:13 2000
I have watched cell phones get better and better the past ten years
and I
now have three (two in cars and one small brain cancer-causing
handheld).
The temptation to use it in my airplane is overwhelming despite the
supposed
(USA) Federal Communications Commision ban on cell phones aloft.
Obviously, nobody would actually violate the law, that's for sure,
especially me, but I'd be interested to know if anybody has ever
thought
about it and maybe at least pushed the button to see if there was a
dial
tone at FL 100 and maybe just tried to dial a number and maybe just
talked a
little bit and maybe...and maybe...
Antwortzitate:
#1
About a year ago, I had to fly from Los Alamos, NM (LAM) down to
Santa Fe (SAF)
NORDO to get a radio fixed. Since SAF is a towered airport (Class D
airspace),
I called the tower beforehand to arrange a time to come in, and get
instructions
on what they would like me to do regarding entering the pattern.
#2
Often mine will ring in flight (audible only because I've got the
Lightspeed
ANRs on), but -- even if I wanted to "break the law" and answer it --
there
would be no way I could possibly hear them over the roar of the
engine!
#3
I use mine all the time in the plane.
#4
A friend of mine though even made a call while I was flying an ILS.
It was IMC.
#5
as a transplant coordinator, i have used cell phones in planes for
almost
8 years. never had a problem. of course, these were not commercial
jets,
but chartered. some of the fancier ones even had phones installed in
the
passenger compartment-- so what's the big deal? i have also had to
answer
pages from my own plane(172) and had no problem except the NOISE
LEVEL IN
THE COCKPIT!!
#6
Well within FCC rules since a pilot can use the cell phone in case of
an
emergency with no fear of FCC cops tossing said pilot in the dungeon.
#7
He had no problem making the call. Perhaps the late hour
with little traffic on the phone network had something to do
with it. We were about 2000 or so AGL over the Seattle-Tacoma
metropolitan area at the time.
I didn't realize he was going to use his phone so I couldn't
warn him it was against the law .
#8
I have used my Nextel phone in the air on a couple of occasions
(never on
commercial flights). I have found that it works very well (especially
the 2
way DirectConnect feature). The flip fits right under my headset. I
have
no idea how the phone sounds on the other end, but it's probably
pretty
noisy.
#9
I have flown well beyond the range that I can get in a car. This is
kind of
surprising to me, since most service providers "down-tilt" their
antennas to
prevent too much overlap of transmitter sites. I have also used my
phone at
the summit of a couple different >10,000ft MSL mountain peaks, which
would
probably cause the same (if any) ill effect on my providers' network.
#10
Digital - Don't waste your time, "Oh look, full signal [start making
call],
ah damn, connection lost..." <repeat> <repeat> <repeat> ......
Analog - Not a problem...
#11
I have tried mine and despite it showing
there is a signal it is unusual tio get a cal through, although
receiving
SMS is more frequent. The system appears to chcuk you out if you are
hitting too many cells at the same time I guess. When I use it in
remote
areas, it does sometimes work. As you say the high noise level in the
cockpit does tend to make it hard for the other end to hear you.
#12
Jeez, over here (kiwiland) we're allowed, indeed encouraged, to carry
cellphones for GA / VFR ops. (When filing a VFR Flight Plan or
SARWatch
they'll ask you if you have a cell phone, and the number if you
respond
'affirm').
MfG
Kaborka
Subject: How many may have tried cell phones aloft? Come clean,
now...
From: Tim Q
Date: Mon Sep 11 16:42:13 2000
I have watched cell phones get better and better the past ten years
and I
now have three (two in cars and one small brain cancer-causing
handheld).
The temptation to use it in my airplane is overwhelming despite the
supposed
(USA) Federal Communications Commision ban on cell phones aloft.
Obviously, nobody would actually violate the law, that's for sure,
especially me, but I'd be interested to know if anybody has ever
thought
about it and maybe at least pushed the button to see if there was a
dial
tone at FL 100 and maybe just tried to dial a number and maybe just
talked a
little bit and maybe...and maybe...
Antwortzitate:
#1
About a year ago, I had to fly from Los Alamos, NM (LAM) down to
Santa Fe (SAF)
NORDO to get a radio fixed. Since SAF is a towered airport (Class D
airspace),
I called the tower beforehand to arrange a time to come in, and get
instructions
on what they would like me to do regarding entering the pattern.
#2
Often mine will ring in flight (audible only because I've got the
Lightspeed
ANRs on), but -- even if I wanted to "break the law" and answer it --
there
would be no way I could possibly hear them over the roar of the
engine!
#3
I use mine all the time in the plane.
#4
A friend of mine though even made a call while I was flying an ILS.
It was IMC.
#5
as a transplant coordinator, i have used cell phones in planes for
almost
8 years. never had a problem. of course, these were not commercial
jets,
but chartered. some of the fancier ones even had phones installed in
the
passenger compartment-- so what's the big deal? i have also had to
answer
pages from my own plane(172) and had no problem except the NOISE
LEVEL IN
THE COCKPIT!!
#6
Well within FCC rules since a pilot can use the cell phone in case of
an
emergency with no fear of FCC cops tossing said pilot in the dungeon.
#7
He had no problem making the call. Perhaps the late hour
with little traffic on the phone network had something to do
with it. We were about 2000 or so AGL over the Seattle-Tacoma
metropolitan area at the time.
I didn't realize he was going to use his phone so I couldn't
warn him it was against the law .
#8
I have used my Nextel phone in the air on a couple of occasions
(never on
commercial flights). I have found that it works very well (especially
the 2
way DirectConnect feature). The flip fits right under my headset. I
have
no idea how the phone sounds on the other end, but it's probably
pretty
noisy.
#9
I have flown well beyond the range that I can get in a car. This is
kind of
surprising to me, since most service providers "down-tilt" their
antennas to
prevent too much overlap of transmitter sites. I have also used my
phone at
the summit of a couple different >10,000ft MSL mountain peaks, which
would
probably cause the same (if any) ill effect on my providers' network.
#10
Digital - Don't waste your time, "Oh look, full signal [start making
call],
ah damn, connection lost..." <repeat> <repeat> <repeat> ......
Analog - Not a problem...
#11
I have tried mine and despite it showing
there is a signal it is unusual tio get a cal through, although
receiving
SMS is more frequent. The system appears to chcuk you out if you are
hitting too many cells at the same time I guess. When I use it in
remote
areas, it does sometimes work. As you say the high noise level in the
cockpit does tend to make it hard for the other end to hear you.
#12
Jeez, over here (kiwiland) we're allowed, indeed encouraged, to carry
cellphones for GA / VFR ops. (When filing a VFR Flight Plan or
SARWatch
they'll ask you if you have a cell phone, and the number if you
respond
'affirm').
MfG
Kaborka