Otla schrieb am 21. Dezember 2014 14:09
> Im Moment kommen die drängendsten Probleme aus dem Ausland: IS, die
> sich nicht nur im Osten in Derna festgesetzt haben - daran, sich in
> Benghazi festzusetzen, wurden sie zum Glück gehindert - sondern auch
> von Süden her drängen (Mali).
"In Derna festgesetzt"? Und Sie geben sich hier als Libyen-Kenner(in)
aus?
Die Islamisten in Derna haben aktuell den "Kalifen" des IS als
Oberhaupt anerkannt, that's it. Ansonsten hat sich wenig verändert.
Der Islamismus in Derna ist hausgemacht und wird von dort aus
exportiert, nicht importiert. Jeder, der einmal einen seriösen
Libyen-Artikel zur Kenntnis genommen hat, sollte das wissen.
Zwei Kostproben:
"Late last year American soldiers raided an insurgent headquarters in
the northern Iraqi town of Sinjar. Inside they found a
document—perhaps an application form that Abd al-Salam had filled out
on his way into the country—on the letterhead of the "Mujahedin Shura
Council." The document listed little beyond Abd al-Salam's birthday,
his brother's phone number and his hometown. Yet as they analyzed the
papers, American investigators were struck by one thing. Of the 606
militants cataloged in the Sinjar records, almost 19 percent had come
to Iraq from Libya. Previous intelligence estimates had always held
that the bulk of Iraq's foreign fighters come from Saudi Arabia.
Indeed, the largest number of militants in the Sinjar records—244 of
them—were Saudi nationals. But in per capita terms, Libyans
represented a much higher percentage. Perhaps the most startling
detail: of 112 Libyan fighters named in the papers, an astoundingly
large number—52—had come from a single town of 50,000 people along
the Mediterranean coast, called Darnah."
> http://www.newsweek.com/cover-jihadist-riddle-85605
"Rejecting the idea that Derna was uniformly extremist, al-Mansuri
and his business partner described the town as being divided between
religiously conservative and secular residents. A "large number" of
Derna's citizens were not happy about the increasingly conservative
religious atmosphere that had prevailed since the 1980's, he claimed.
Elaborating, al-Mansuri attributed adherence to more extreme
iterations of Islam to "unnatural foreign influences" on religious
practices in Derna. A number of Libyans who had fought and in some
cases undergone "religious and ideological training" in Afghanistan,
Lebanon and the West Bank in the late 1970's and early 1980's had
returned to eastern Libya, including Derna, in the mid to late
1980's. Claiming their return was "not coincidental", he described a
deliberate, coordinated campaign to propagate more conservative
iterations of Islam, in part to prepare the ground for the eventual
overthrow by the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) of Muammar
Qadhafi's regime, which is "hated" by conservative Islamists. (Note:
After taking pains to curry favor with the 'ulema' in Libya in the
years immediately after the 1969 revolution, Qadhafi broke with them
in the late 1970's, criticizing aspects of Islam as
"un-revolutionary". Although he renewed efforts to cultivate Muslim
leaders in the 1990's, deep suspicions remain. The LIFG waged a
successful low-level guerrilla insurgency in the early to mid-1990's,
specializing in robbery and raids on remote military garrisons to
sustain itself. End note.) "
> https://cablegatesearch.wikileaks.org/cable.php?id=08TRIPOLI430
> Im Moment kommen die drängendsten Probleme aus dem Ausland: IS, die
> sich nicht nur im Osten in Derna festgesetzt haben - daran, sich in
> Benghazi festzusetzen, wurden sie zum Glück gehindert - sondern auch
> von Süden her drängen (Mali).
"In Derna festgesetzt"? Und Sie geben sich hier als Libyen-Kenner(in)
aus?
Die Islamisten in Derna haben aktuell den "Kalifen" des IS als
Oberhaupt anerkannt, that's it. Ansonsten hat sich wenig verändert.
Der Islamismus in Derna ist hausgemacht und wird von dort aus
exportiert, nicht importiert. Jeder, der einmal einen seriösen
Libyen-Artikel zur Kenntnis genommen hat, sollte das wissen.
Zwei Kostproben:
"Late last year American soldiers raided an insurgent headquarters in
the northern Iraqi town of Sinjar. Inside they found a
document—perhaps an application form that Abd al-Salam had filled out
on his way into the country—on the letterhead of the "Mujahedin Shura
Council." The document listed little beyond Abd al-Salam's birthday,
his brother's phone number and his hometown. Yet as they analyzed the
papers, American investigators were struck by one thing. Of the 606
militants cataloged in the Sinjar records, almost 19 percent had come
to Iraq from Libya. Previous intelligence estimates had always held
that the bulk of Iraq's foreign fighters come from Saudi Arabia.
Indeed, the largest number of militants in the Sinjar records—244 of
them—were Saudi nationals. But in per capita terms, Libyans
represented a much higher percentage. Perhaps the most startling
detail: of 112 Libyan fighters named in the papers, an astoundingly
large number—52—had come from a single town of 50,000 people along
the Mediterranean coast, called Darnah."
> http://www.newsweek.com/cover-jihadist-riddle-85605
"Rejecting the idea that Derna was uniformly extremist, al-Mansuri
and his business partner described the town as being divided between
religiously conservative and secular residents. A "large number" of
Derna's citizens were not happy about the increasingly conservative
religious atmosphere that had prevailed since the 1980's, he claimed.
Elaborating, al-Mansuri attributed adherence to more extreme
iterations of Islam to "unnatural foreign influences" on religious
practices in Derna. A number of Libyans who had fought and in some
cases undergone "religious and ideological training" in Afghanistan,
Lebanon and the West Bank in the late 1970's and early 1980's had
returned to eastern Libya, including Derna, in the mid to late
1980's. Claiming their return was "not coincidental", he described a
deliberate, coordinated campaign to propagate more conservative
iterations of Islam, in part to prepare the ground for the eventual
overthrow by the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) of Muammar
Qadhafi's regime, which is "hated" by conservative Islamists. (Note:
After taking pains to curry favor with the 'ulema' in Libya in the
years immediately after the 1969 revolution, Qadhafi broke with them
in the late 1970's, criticizing aspects of Islam as
"un-revolutionary". Although he renewed efforts to cultivate Muslim
leaders in the 1990's, deep suspicions remain. The LIFG waged a
successful low-level guerrilla insurgency in the early to mid-1990's,
specializing in robbery and raids on remote military garrisons to
sustain itself. End note.) "
> https://cablegatesearch.wikileaks.org/cable.php?id=08TRIPOLI430