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Re: "Im Dezember 2021 habe Russland ein letztes Vertragsangebot unterbreitet."

Raistlin666 schrieb am 17.12.2024 15:48:

Ja und da steht auch das es normal ist mit Maximalforderungen in Verhandlungen zu gehen.

Entscheidend ist, das wir komplett abgelehnt haben, ohne jegliches Gegenangebot, womit wir klar gemacht haben das wir gar nicht verhandeln wollen.

Das stimmt doch nicht. Die USA haben in anderen Fragen durchaus Gesprächsbereitschaft signalisiert.

Paul D’Anieri: Ukraine and Russia. From Civilized Divorce to Uncivil War. Cambridge University Press, 2023, ISBN 978-1-00-931554-8, S. 275–276, https://books.google.de/books?id=ASysEAAAQBAJ&pg=PA275
"Although Russia insisted that the proposal had to be accepted in its entirety, NATO members treated it as the opening gambit in a negotiation, and US and Russian diplomats met to discuss it in Geneva on January 10, 2022. Despite little apparent progress over eight hours of talks, the leader of the Russian delegation, Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov, spoke positively afterwards, saying that the US “took Russian proposals very seriously” and that Russia sought “the continuation of the dialogue.” He also reassured reporters that “we have no plans, no intentions, to attack Ukraine.” It seems likely that Ryabkov was speaking sincerely, and that Russian diplomats were not privy to Putin’s plans.

The US provided the written response that Russia demanded on January 26, rejecting some demands and proposing further negotiations on others. [...] On January 31, the UN Security Council met to discuss the crisis. US Ambassador Linda Greenfield-Thompson pointed to the troop buildup and accused Russia of “painting Ukraine and Western countries as the aggressors, to fabricate the pretext for attack.” Russia’s ambassador, Vassily Nebenzia, denied that Russia was planning to attack, and said that “you’re almost calling for this, you want it to happen.”"

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