DeineMudder schrieb am 28.11.2024 21:24:
schlamutzelnase schrieb am 28.11.2024 20:58:
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Unstrittig ist wohl unter Militärexperten (ich bin keiner),
...Das hast Du ja selber zugegeben, also kein Fazit mehr darunter schreiben.
Aber anscheinend hat die Ukraine die gescheiterte Sommeroffensive 2023 weitgehend verlustfrei überstanden.
Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses.
Du darfst die Rechnung ja gerne selbst aufmachen:
1. vor dem Krieg hatte die Ukraine 200.000 - 250.000 Soldaten
2. bis Anfang 2024 hatte die Ukraine 1.000.000 Soldaten eingezogen (1)
3. von 700.000 dieser eingezogenen Soldaten fehlt jede Spur (1)
4. zur Zeit fehlt es der Ukraine an Soldaten in fast allen Abschnitten der Front und es sollen lediglich 330.000 Soldaten zur Zeit an der Front sein (2), wobei selbst das angesichts des berichteten Personalmangels und der Verluste überschätzt sein könnte (3)
ad (1):
Syrsky has been tasked with auditing the existing armed forces to find more combat-eligible troops, after Zelensky’s office recently announced that of the 1 million people who have been mobilized, only about 300,000 have fought at the front lines. But nearly a month after his promotion, no one in the military leadership or the presidential administration has explained where those 700,000 are — or what they have been doing.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/03/04/ukraine-mobilization-zelensky-russia
ad (2):
A new mobilisation law — due to be put to a parliamentary vote on March 31 — seeks to update the country’s legal framework ahead of a probable recruitment wave this year in which up to 500,000 people could be drafted. Some 330,000 troops are estimated to be currently deployed on the battlefield.
https://www.ft.com/content/d7e95021-df99-4e99-8105-5a8c3eb8d4ef
ad (3):
All this leads to terrifying casualties of both dead and wounded. "The battalion came in in the middle of December… between all the different platoons, there were 500 of us," says Borys, a combat medic from Odesa Oblast fighting around Bakhmut. "A month ago, there were literally 150 of us."
“When you go out to the position, it’s not even a 50/50 chance that you’ll come out of there (alive),” says the older Serhiy. “It’s more like 30/70.”
https://kyivindependent.com/ukrainian-soldiers-in-bakhmut-our-troops-are-not-being-protected/
ad (3) - Verluste z.B. im Juni 2022:
Any way you count it, the figures are stark: Ukrainian casualties are running at a rate of somewhere between 6oo and 1,000 a day. One presidential adviser, Oleksiy Arestovych, told the Guardian this week it was 150 killed and 800 wounded daily; another, Mykhaylo Podolyak, told the BBC that 100 to 200 Ukrainian troops a day were being killed.
It represents an extraordinary loss of human life and capacity for the defenders, embroiled in a defence of the eastern city of Sievierodonetsk that this week turned into a losing battle. Yet the city was also arguably a place that Ukraine could have retreated from to the more defensible Lysychansk, across the Siverski Donets River, the sort of defensive situation that Ukraine has fared far better in.
The sheer number – more than 20,000 casualties a month – raises questions about what state Ukraine’s army will be in if the war drags on into the autumn. The same is true for the Russians too, of course. But the invaders already control large chunks of Ukraine, and they can pause the fighting with the territorial upper hand.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/10/ukraine-casualty-rate-russia-war-tipping-point
ad (3) Dnipro Brückenkopf Dezember 2023:
Ukrainian forces have taken heavy casualties in recent efforts to cross the Dnipro River.
Oleksiy said the Ukrainian commanders’ poor preparation and logistics had decimated his battalion. Wounded men were being left behind because of a lack of boats, he said, and the brutal conditions were degrading morale and soldiers’ support for each other.
“People who end up there are not prepared psychologically,” he said. “They don’t even understand where they are going. They are not told by the command that sends them there.”
Oleksiy agreed to let The Times publish his account out of frustration at the losses. “I did not see anything like this in Bakhmut or Soledar,” he said, referring to two of the most intense battles on the eastern front. “It’s so wasteful.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/16/world/europe/ukraine-kherson-river-russia.html
Das Posting wurde vom Benutzer editiert (29.11.2024 10:50).