mouse-net schrieb am 07.09.2023 11:35:
Suicido schrieb am 07.09.2023 11:27:
Naja, das mit dem Trauma liegt wohl irgendwo anders:
--> https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/ukraine-fuehrt-umstrittene-grussformel-fuer-armee-und-polizei-ein-a-1231501.htmlAlso ich finde es heute noch nicht so toll, dass der deutsche Bundestag nun Reichstag heisst.
Und nun?Ansonsten bedeutet #SlavaUkraini Ehre der Ukraine.
"The phrase first appeared at the beginning of the 20th century in different variations, when it became popular among Ukrainians during the Ukrainian War of Independence from 1917 to 1921.[1] The response "Glory to the heroes!" first appeared during the Ukrainian War of Independence or later in the 1920s among members of the League of Ukrainian Nationalists.[2] In the 1930s, it became widespread as a slogan of the far-right Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN),[3] as well as Ukrainian diaspora groups and refugee communities in the West during the Cold War. In the Soviet Union, the phrase was forbidden and discredited by Soviet and later Russian authorities. The phrase eventually resurfaced in Ukraine during the country's struggle for independence in connection with the fall of the Soviet Union. Its use was revived again during the 2014 Ukrainian revolution and the Russo-Ukrainian War, during which it became a widely popular symbol in Ukraine. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slava_Ukraini
Äh nein nicht so ganz:
According to Yana Prymachenko the response "Glory to the heroes!" (Heroiam slava!) was in use already in years 1917–1921, during the Ukrainian war of independence.[8] In Petro Dyachenko's memoirs, it is reported that at a meeting of the Legion of Ukrainian Nationalists (LUN), which was active in 1925–29, Yuriy Artyushenko [uk] proposed to adopt the Black Zaporozhians [uk] salute "Glory to Ukraine!" – "Glory to the Cossacks!". This proposal was accepted with a change of response to the more universal "Glory to the heroes!".[15] However, in the memoirs of Artyushenko himself, there is no such information, but there is a mention of the acceptance of the greeting "Glory to Ukraine!" and the response "Glory to Ukraine, Glory!".[1]
[b]In April 1941 in German-occupied Kraków, the younger part of the OUN seceded and formed its own organisation, called the OUN-B after its leader Stepan Bandera. The group adopted a fascist-style salute along with calling "Glory to Ukraine!" and responding with "Glory to the Heroes!".[18][19][20][11] [/b]
Aus deiner eigenen Quelle. "Ruhm den Helden" ist ein ausschließlich faschistischer Gruß, der erst von der OUN-B etabliert wurde auch wenn man ihn wohl irgendwie historisch begründen wollte.