DasWoelfchen schrieb am 25.06.2024 10:10:
Interessante These. Militärische Aktionen einer Regierung gegen Separatisten schaffen also die Legitimation.
Du lässt die entscheidenden Punkte aus, das ist keine Antwort Wert.
Der Guardian schreibt dazu am 22. April 2002:
The official Dutch inquiry into the 1995 Srebrenica massacre, released last week, contains one of the most sensational reports on western intelligence ever published. Officials have been staggered by its findings and the Dutch government has resigned. One of its many volumes is devoted to clandestine activities during the Bosnian war of the early 1990s. For five years, Professor Cees Wiebes of Amsterdam University has had unrestricted access to Dutch intelligence files and has stalked the corridors of secret service headquarters in western capitals, as well as in Bosnia, asking questions.
His findings are set out in "Intelligence and the war in Bosnia, 1992-1995". It includes remarkable material on covert operations, signals interception, human agents and double-crossing by dozens of agencies in one of dirtiest wars of the new world disorder. Now we have the full story of the secret alliance between the Pentagon and radical Islamist groups from the Middle East designed to assist the Bosnian Muslims - some of the same groups that the Pentagon is now fighting in "the war against terrorism". Pentagon operations in Bosnia have delivered their own "blowback".
In the 1980s Washington's secret services had assisted Saddam Hussein in his war against Iran. Then, in 1990, the US fought him in the Gulf. In both Afghanistan and the Gulf, the Pentagon had incurred debts to Islamist groups and their Middle Eastern sponsors. By 1993 these groups, many supported by Iran and Saudi Arabia, were anxious to help Bosnian Muslims fighting in the former Yugoslavia and called in their debts with the Americans. Bill Clinton and the Pentagon were keen to be seen as creditworthy and repaid in the form of an Iran-Contra style operation - in flagrant violation of the UN security council arms embargo against all combatants in the former Yugoslavia.
The result was a vast secret conduit of weapons smuggling though Croatia. This was arranged by the clandestine agencies of the US, Turkey and Iran, together with a range of radical Islamist groups, including Afghan mojahedin and the pro-Iranian Hizbullah. Wiebes reveals that the British intelligence services obtained documents early on in the Bosnian war proving that Iran was making direct deliveries.
Arms purchased by Iran and Turkey with the financial backing of Saudi Arabia made their way by night from the Middle East. Initially aircraft from Iran Air were used, but as the volume increased they were joined by a mysterious fleet of black C-130 Hercules aircraft. The report stresses that the US was "very closely involved" in the airlift. Mojahedin fighters were also flown in, but they were reserved as shock troops for especially hazardous operations.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/apr/22/warcrimes.comment
Klingt schwer reißerisch.
Obendrein in manchen Details unglaubwürdig.
Die Amis wollen eine moralische Schuld abzahlen?
Die Islamisten wollen speziell den bosnischen Muslimen helfen? Und gegen welches Regime überhaupt - Milosevics Regierung? Das war ja nicht mal sonderlich proamerikanisch.
Robert Baer, a former CIA agent, talked about the disintegration of the former Yugoslavia in the 90’s.
Baer claims that then he and his colleagues received millions of dollars to influence politicians and to cause the splitting-up of the former Yugoslavia.
“We bribed parties and politicians who were encouraging hatred among nations,” stated Baer.
He also emphasized that one US senator told him during the war that Srebrenica will be the biggest news on the world’s front pages.
“He even told us that we can already start establishing contacts with the media,” said Baer.
https://sarajevotimes.com/former-cia-agent-claims-they-gave-us-millions-to-split-up-yugoslavia-2/?amp=1
Wäre auch nur ein Wort von dem, was er schreibt, wahr, hätten die Amis ihn umgehend wegen Geheimnisverrat verklagt.
Die Schweigepflichten enden nicht mit der Anstellung. Gerade bei Geheimdienstlern nicht.
Telepolis hatte auch darüber berichtet:
https://www.telepolis.de/features/Der-Staat-Jugoslawien-stand-dem-strategischen-Entwurf-der-USA-im-Wege-3378506.html
Nein, Telepolis hat nicht darüber berichtet, wie du suggerierst, TP hat dem gleichen Robert Baer nur nochmal eine Gelegenheit gegeben, seine Thesen zu wiederholen.
Krieg in Europa ist schon seit dieser Zeit wieder als Mittel der Machtpolitik salonfähig und die Büchse der Pandora wurde hierbei von der NATO geöffnet
Nee, von Milosevic.
Der hat Krieg geführt, um die abgespaltenen Teilstaaten zurück nach Serbien zu holen.Und die Post-Maidan Regierungen haben in der Ukraine auch Krieg geführt, um die Sezession der Donbass-Republiken zu verhindern bzw. rückgängig zu machen.
Nach deiner Lesart erlaubt der Einsatz des Militärs durch die Regierung eines Landes gegen abtrünnige Gebiete ja einen militärischen Einsatz durch Drittstaaten zur Unterstützung der Separatisten.
Die Separatisten im Donbas waren von Russland finanziert und ausgerüstet.
Das ist ja doch ein bisschen was Anderes als ein Staat, dessen Teilrepubliken nach inneren Machtverschiebungen plötzlich fast alle die Unabhängigkeit anstreben.