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Re: Ein Blick auf die Militärausgaben von NATO und Russland

fuckup2 schrieb am 08.02.2024 15:40:

Lukrez schrieb am 08.02.2024 09:09:

Zerstörung Jugoslawiens

Russlands Buddy Serbien hat Slowenien, Koratien und letztlich Bosnien-Herzegegovina angegriffen.

Der Ex-CIA Mann Robert Baer, der selbst in Jugoslawien aktiv war, schildert das aber etwas anders:

Robert Baer hat 20 Jahre lang für den US-Geheimdienst CIA gearbeitet und war für diesen in Ländern wie dem Libanon, dem Irak, in Tadschikistan, in Marokko und im ehemaligen Jugoslawien tätig. 1997 verließ er den Geheimdienst und berichtete seitdem in Büchern und als Autor in Zeitungen über die US-Außenpolitik, Spionage und die Arbeit der Geheimdienste, die er zunehmend kritisch betrachtete. Er schilderte den Niedergang der CIA, die seiner Ansicht nach falsche Haltung gegenüber Saudi-Arabien und dem Iran. In dem Buch "Secrets of the White House", das demnächst erscheinen soll, geht es darum, welche Interessen die USA in Ex-Jugoslawien bis hin zum Kosovo-Krieg verfolgten.

In Ihrem neuen Buch "Secrets of the White House" werfen Sie dem CIA vor, den Zerfall Jugoslawiens in den 1990er Jahren massiv unterstützt zu haben. Was war das strategische Ziel des US-Geheimdienstes, diesen Staatszerfall zu beschleunigen, der zu Krieg und Bürgerkrieg führte und hunderttausende Opfer forderte?

Robert Baer: Das Ziel war es, den Staat Jugoslawien als geopolitischen Machtfaktor auszuschalten. Versetzen wir uns einmal in jene Zeit zurück, vor rund einem Vierteljahrhundert. Die Sowjetunion zerbrach, ebenso die Tschechoslowakei, Deutschland wurde vereinigt, der Warschauer Pakt löste sich auf, die geopolitische Landschaft, welche nach dem 2. Weltkrieg entstanden war, hatte über Nacht aufgehört zu existieren.

In Washington hatte man damals das Ziel, gemäß der Fehlanalysen Fukuyamas, die Chancen zu nutzen, um dauerhaft westliche Vorstellungen von der Welt nicht nur in Europa zu installieren, also der ganz große Abwasch, um zukünftig das Entstehen eines gegnerischen Machtfaktors, wie es die UdSSR einst war, dauerhaft zu verhindern.

Und was hat das mit Jugoslawien zu tun?

Robert Baer: Der Staat Jugoslawien stand diesem strategischen Entwurf im Wege. Immerhin war es ein Staat mit einigem Gewicht und einigem Prestige, sowie mit einer der stärksten Armeen Europas.

https://www.telepolis.de/features/Der-Staat-Jugoslawien-stand-dem-strategischen-Entwurf-der-USA-im-Wege-3378506.html

Zerstörung des Irak

Russlands Buddy Irak hätte ahnen können, dass der Einmarsch in fremde Länder nicht gut ausgehen wird.

Die Russen haben alle Waffenlieferungen an den Irak gestoppt, die USA hingegen wollten, dass der Irak den Krieg gegen den Iran gewinnt. Dazu gibt es auch eine eidesstattliche Erklärung vo Howard J. Teicher, seines Zeichens Direktor für den Mittleren Osten und Südost Asien bei National Security Council zu dieser Zeit:

U.S. government support for Iraq was not a secret and was frequently discussed in open sessions of the Senate and House of Representatives. On June 9, 1992, Ted Koppel reported on ABC's Nightline that the "Reagan/Bush administrations permitted—and frequently encouraged—the flow of money, agricultural credits, dual-use technology, chemicals, and weapons to Iraq."
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In February 1982,[35] Iraq was removed from the State Department's list of State Sponsors of Terrorism to ease the transfer of dual-use technology to that country. According to investigative journalist Alan Friedman, Haig was "upset at the fact that the decision had been made at the White House, even though the State Department was responsible for the list." "I was not consulted," Haig is said to have complained.[1] In March, President Reagan signed National Security Study Memorandum (NSSM) 4-82—seeking "a review of U.S. policy toward the Middle East"—and in June Reagan signed a National Security Decision Directive (NSDD) co-written by Teicher, who was now at the NSC, which determined: "The United States could not afford to allow Iraq to lose the war to Iran."[33][35] Pursuant to this Directive, Thomas Twetten arrived in Baghdad on July 27 to share CIA satellite imagery on Iranian troop movements with the Iraqi Mukhabarat. This was "the first U.S. provision of intelligence to Iraq," and sparked a short-lived debate over whether Iraq would tolerate a CIA presence in the country: Mukhabarat head Barzan Tikriti told Twetten to "get the hell out of Iraq," but Iraqi military intelligence—"having already drooled over it and having said repeatedly how valuable it was"—subsequently informed Twetten "we'll continue to look at your information, and we'll assess whether it is of use to us in any way."[32] Reports of Iraq's use of chemical weapons against Iran reached the CIA as early as 1983, but the U.S. took no action to restrain Iraq's violations of international law, failing even to alert the UN.[36] By November 1983, the State Department had been briefed on Iraq's "almost daily use of [chemical weapons]".[37] In late 1983, Reagan selected Donald Rumsfeld as his envoy to the Middle East; Rumsfeld met Saddam in Baghdad in December 1983 and March 1984. "On November 26, 1984, Iraq and the U.S. restored diplomatic relations."[35] The U.S. reportedly sought to normalize relations with Iraq in late 1983, but Saddam did not agree until 1984.[37]

According to Teicher's 1995 affidavit and separate interviews with former Reagan and Bush administration officials, the CIA secretly directed armaments and hi-tech components to Iraq through false fronts and friendly third parties such as Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Kuwait, and they quietly encouraged rogue arms dealers and other private military companies to do the same:

[b][T]he United States actively supported the Iraqi war effort by supplying the Iraqis with billions of dollars of credits, by providing U.S. military intelligence and advice to the Iraqis, and by closely monitoring third country arms sales to Iraq to make sure that Iraq had the military weaponry required.[/b] The United States also provided strategic operational advice to the Iraqis to better use their assets in combat ... The CIA, including both CIA Director Casey and Deputy Director Gates, knew of, approved of, and assisted in the sale of non-U.S. origin military weapons, ammunition and vehicles to Iraq. My notes, memoranda and other documents in my NSC files show or tend to show that the CIA knew of, approved of, and assisted in the sale of non-U.S. origin military weapons, munitions and vehicles to Iraq.[38]
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With the UN-imposed embargo on warring parties, and with the Soviet Union opposing the conflict, Iraqi engineers found it increasingly difficult to repair and replace hardware damaged in battle.[45][46] According to Kenneth R. Timmerman, "Saddam did foresee one immediate consequence of his invasion of Iran: the suspension of arms supplies from the USSR."[2]
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According to Howard Teicher, the United States assisted Iraq through a military aid program known as "Bear Spares", whereby the U.S. military "made sure that spare parts and ammunition for Soviet or Soviet-style weaponry were available to countries which sought to reduce their dependence on the Soviets for defense needs."[38] According to Teicher's 1995 court affidavit:

If the "Bear Spares" were manufactured outside the United States, then the U.S. could arrange for the provision of these weapons to a third country without direct involvement. Israel, for example, had a very large stockpile of Soviet weaponry and ammunition captured during its various wars. At the suggestion of the United States, the Israelis would transfer the spare parts and weapons to third countries ... Similarly, Egypt manufactured weapons and spare parts from Soviet designs and provided these weapons and ammunition to the Iraqis and other countries.[38]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War#Support

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